The Hudud Hot Potato

Amusing this past few day.......

When Norman came out to talk about his "personal" displeasure about the path that PAS has taken I kinda brush that aside ...standard la tak dapat jadi calun pastu penuh calon payung terjun turun Johor to claim for their efforts over the years....

Dude even said this..

PAS unilateral stand and the deep reluctance to be a true partner in Pakatan Rakyat and the unwillingness to subscribe to the ideals of Pakatan Rakyat let alone agree and accept the common manifesto of Pakatan Rakyat must be enough to convince non-Muslims the grave danger of risking their votes for PAS. Non-muslims must realise that PAS will do what it has set out to do if it gains power. The question for non-muslims is whether non-muslims are prepared to risk it all with PAS. Johoreans and particularly non-muslims must think hard and deep if PAS is really worthy of their votes. I for one have finally made up my mind and am convinced that PAS does not deserve my vote." here

DAP Head honco...brushed it aside and asked the Johor section to handle him...expected la kut...

Not long after...this came out



Aiyoyo 95% Bersetuju and 5% tak setuju

Now this particular 5% is a rather gerun thing not only for Muslims but also for Non Muslims.....



Wanna know why?

GEORGE TOWN: Hudud can be legislated as a parliamentary statute with a simple majority in the Dewan Rakyat, according to Gerakan lawyer Baljit Singh. He said the Islamic criminal law can also be absorbed into the existing Penal Code and Criminal Procedure Code (CPC) by amendments passed through simple parliamentary majority. Hence, he said it was a reality that hudud would come to effect if Pakatan Rakyat took over Putrajaya. Given the elevation of Syariah to be on par with civil law via the 1983 constitutional amendment, he said hudud can be easily implemented by amendment or enactment of statutes. “You need two-thirds majority only to amend the Federal Constitution. “But to amend the Penal Code and CPC, or enact a new hudud statute, you only need a simple majority. “PAS leaders are telling the truth that they can do it. A vote for Pakatan is definitely a vote for hudud. “It’s no more a dream,” Baljit, who heads the state Gerakan legal and human rights bureau, told FMT here today. He said DAP had misled the people by claiming that hudud can only be implemented by amending the Federal Constitution with a two-thirds majority. (here)

I smiled when I saw that actually cause I've written about that possibility...

Remember this post folks?

Can the State Criminalise Offenses which falls under its purview?

Is the Criminal Laws of Malaysia intended to be the Exclusive Jurisdiction of the Federal Government? What more something specifically under the State Jurisdiction What does the Historical Documents say?

What if the Penal Code itself is changed?

As it is There are at least 13 sections of the Penal Code which overlaps with the the State Syariah Criminal Enactment.

(Sections 268,295,298, 298A,372,372A,372B,376A,377,377A,415,416 dan 498 of the Penal Code) (here)

Not too far apart eh....

Agree to disagree is no longer an option folks....

Let us also check out what the Contender for the Best Online Zina Case said

KUALA LUMPUR: PAS will not waver from its Islamic state agenda and the implementation of hudud law, says party secretary-general Datuk Mustafa Ali. “No Muslim can reject it. No Muslim will dare reject hudud. These matters are inclusive of PAS policies and we will not abandon them,” he said at the party's headquarters here yesterday. He was asked whether PAS would stop pursuing its Islamic state agenda as demanded by its Pakatan Rakyat partner DAP. Mustafa said the differences of opinions between the two parties did not arise as each could pursue its own agenda which was not part of the Pakatan common policy framework. “DAP has the right to reject hudud as we have agreed to disagree on the issue,” he said, adding that the issue would not become a wedge between the opposition parties which shared the same goal of capturing Putrajaya in the general election. “Hudud is a PAS agenda, not Pakatan's. PAS will do it through discussions because the implementation of hudud is not automatic if Pakatan wins the elections,” he added (here)

I hope you won't reject it too....

You all may want to do the numbers if it is possible for PAS to push this......

But before you start counting ..... consider this...

Pas sedia dibubarkan dan semua ahlinya menyertai Umno jika parti itu melaksanakan hukum Islam di negara ini. Hashim Jasin (Pas-Sanglang) berkata, Mursyidul Am Pas (Datuk Nik Aziz Nik Mat) pernah menyebut jika Umno melaksanakan hukum Islam pada jam 12 tengah malam, Pas akan dibubarkan pada jam 12.05 tengah malam. Bagaimana pun, beliau berkata setakat ini tidak pernah terlintas dalam hatinya untuk menyertai Umno kerana ia masih gagal melaksanakan apa yang dikehendaki oleh Islam. “Saya tidak akan menyertai Umno kerana ia menolak hukum Islam,” katanya ketika ketika perbahasan Bajet 2013 peringkat jawatankuasa, semalam (here)

Now go to the what if.........

Start by asking how many potential Muslim MPs in the house again?