Thursday, July 7, 2011

When Tempest Tossed, Embrace Chaos : Ambiguous Ambiga TUNTUT, Semua WAJIB IKUT

I've been wondering for quite sometime.....

Apekehal minah ni kelam kabut sangat with her deadline on the 9th of July....

I've asked the question before....

Lu nak rally ni to prove that Lu Boleh Kumpul Tampa Permit ka? Or lu nak create awareness on the so called erection issues...

Cuba cita sikit oi...

With regards to Rights to Assemble under the Constitution itu sudah di cover oleh Blogger AVoice go here 

The latest news is expected.....

KUALA LUMPUR, July 7 — Bersih has vowed to gather in Stadium Merdeka for its July 9 rally despite the Cabinet’s refusal to allow them to use any stadium in the capital city, ostensibly because the electoral reform coalition has been outlawed.
Bersih said in a statement last night that it “will not for one moment be swayed from our decision to gather thereto call for free and fair elections. Go here
Now this is becoming more complex....

First BERSIH have not applied for the permit to assemble

KUALA LUMPUR, July 6 — Bersih chairman Datuk Ambiga Sreenevasan has accused the authorities of “lacking good faith” for demanding that the group apply for a permit to hold its planned stadium rally this weekend.
She said the latest hurdle to the July 9 rally for free and fair elections was “wholly inconsistent” with Datuk Seri Najib Razak’s earlier assurance that Bersih 2.0 could be held in a stadium, as well as the King’s wishes.
“Why are you asking us to apply for a permit when the prime minister has already okayed it?
“We don’t understand it,” she told the Foreign Correspondents’ Club (FCC) here.
Deputy Inspector-General of Police Datuk Khalid Abu Bakar earlier today reminded Bersih to apply for a permit for Saturday’s rally, warning that failure to do so would still make the event an illegal gathering.
He said Bersih had yet to inform or notify the police of their plans for the rally but gave assurance that the group’s permit application process would be expedited in view of the urgency of the situation. More here

What is so special about them that they seem to be acting as if they are above the law?

Minus the lembus from the Pakatan Rakyat yang nak kena kerah to participate for the rally.... how many man on the street support do they actually have?

Hard to tell right...

Their first memo did not have the signatory of Citizens of Malaysia.....


And they had how many years from 2007 to gather signatories from Malaysians from all walks of life?
Wonder why they did not do a country wide petition?


But let's do a comparison on their online efforts so far shall we...


Macam biasa typical strategy of late is to utilise facebook, twitter and sekarang ada style baru pakai pic badges......refer here their official announcement on the campaign



  54,889 people like it.......

What about their official tweeter page....


6054 Followers......

official pic badge page...camne?



57, 347 mamat and minahs......


If I were to sum up all other non official pic badges pages....


Official Pic Badge 57,347 main selit Badges...29,013 = 86,450

bole cita ka ?

Campur the official FB Page 54,899 + Tweet 6054

Considering the MAGNITUDE OF "THE ISSUE" takkan la 147,403 Orang aje?

I'm assuming that no duplication between all the data....kasi chance la.....nanti claim kata gua discount lebih pulak........

Oh BTW Mr Badigol Mentri KDN

If you are looking for folks with T-shirts....

Best you start with those with Pic Badges......

Anyway back to the data........to me ......The very the strange one.....

Let us compare another initiative shall we......

In the interest of a balanced data I must pick issues that cuts across the Racial and Religious Boundaries..

The best data would be the Anti Warisan Merdeka Facebook Page....

That thing was Viral beb.....

Below a screenshot of the current numbers....


If I were to compare the Allah Ciplak protest page....that now defunct page had 291 K supporters....

Well let's go back to the Perasan Lebih BERSIH 2.0.....

The 2.0 behind the name is a sign of more to come from this group of people......

Wonder why this group does not want to start the dialog properly and defer their intention to a later date after BERSIH is no longer considered a threat to National Security


They issued this statement before meeting YDPA

BERSIH 2.0 akan patuh kepada titah Duli Yang Maha Mulia Seri Paduka Baginda Yang DiPertuan Agong untuk berdialog ke arah mewujudkan satu konsensus nasional bagi reformasi sistem pilihan raya dan proses pembangunan demokrasi di Malaysia. refer here
But after meeting YDPA they issued this ..refer here

Kenyataan Media: 6 Julai 2011

Berhimpun di Stadium Merdeka
1. Mengadap DYMMSPB Yang Di-Pertuan Agong

Gabungan Pilihanraya Bersih dan Adil 2.0 (BERSIH 2.0) menjunjung kasih Duli Yang Maha Mulia Seri Paduka Baginda Yang Di-Pertuan Agong di atas perkenan kami mengadap pada 5 Julai 2011. BERSIH 2.0 telah diwakili oleh Dato’ Ambiga Sreenevasan, Dato’ A. Samad Said dan Zaid Kamaruddin.
BERSIH 2.0 juga menjunjung kasih Seri Paduka Baginda Tuanku di atas keprihatinan terhadap aspirasi rakyat untuk menikmati demokrasi dan hak asasi seperti yang termaktub di dalam Perlembagaan Persekutuan.
Rombongan BERSIH 2.0 telah mempersembahkan kepada Seri Paduka Baginda Tuanku, di antara lain, kenyataan dan pendirian yang berikut:


BERSIH 2.0 menerima tawaran kerajaan untuk mengadakan rapat umum di stadium. BERSIH 2.0 berharap polis memberi kerjasama untuk memastikan perhimpunan berjalan dengan lancar. Wakil BERSIH 2.0 tidak melebihi 10 orang akan menyerahkan satu memorandum kepada Seri Paduka Baginda Yang DiPertuan Agong.
Kerajaan menunjukkan good faith dengan membebaskan semua yang telah ditahan termasuk individu-individu yang ditahan di bawah EO dan memberhentikan tekanan, gangguan serta halangan kepada penyokong-penyokong BERSIH 2.0.

Menubuhkan satu Suruhanjaya Siasatan DiRaja (RCI) untuk pembaikan sistem dan proses pilihan raya.


2. Tuntutan BERSIH 2.0

BERSIH 2.0 adalah gabungan yang sah kerana disertai oleh pertubuhan-pertubuhan dan entiti yang berdaftar.
BERSIH 2.0 menuntut:
Ditubuhkan satu Suruhanjaya Siasatan DiRaja (RCI) untuk mengkaji secara menyeluruh kelemahan-kelemahan di dalam dan mencadangkan penambahbaikan kepada sistem dan proses pilihanraya yang sedia ada. Suruhanjaya ini hendaklah dianggotai mereka yang berkaliber dan mewakili semua pihak yang berkepentingan (stakeholders).

Lapan (8) tuntutan-tuntutan jangka pendek BERSIH 2.0 dipenuhi sebelum PRU 13. Kelapan-lapan tuntutan rakyat itu adalah:
  • Bersihkan senarai undi
  • Mereformasikan undi pos
  • Gunakan dakwat kekal
  • Masa kempen minima 21 hari
  • Akses media yang bebas dan adil
  • Kukuhkan institusi awam
  • Hentikan rasuah
  • Hentikan politik kotor

Semua yang telah ditahan berkaitan sokongan kepada BERSIH 2.0 hendaklah dibebaskan. Ini bermakna BERSIH 2.0 menuntut:
  • Keenam-enam pemimpin Parti Sosialis Malaysia (PSM) termasuk Ahli Parlimen Dr Michael Jayakumar Devaraj yang ditahan di bawah Ordinan Darurat (EO) mesti dibebaskan serta-merta, atau dihadapkan ke mahkamah.
  • Pendakwaan terhadap mereka yang ada kaitan dengan BERSIH 2.0 ditarik balik atau digugurkan.
  • Mereka yang masih ditahan dibebaskan tanpa syarat.

Semua gangguan (harassment), ugutan, tuduhan dan fitnah terhadap penyokong-penyokong BERSIH 2.0 dihentikan. Ini bermakna:
Rakyat dibenarkan memakai baju kuning.
Usaha-usaha menjayakan perhimpunan BERSIH 2.0 di stadium tidak dihalang.

Bahawa pihak Polis DiRaja Malaysia, Dewan Bandaraya Kuala Lumpur atau mana-mana pihak lain tidak memberikan apa-apa halangan kepada semua rakyat yang menghadiri perhimpunan BERSIH 2.0 di Stadium Merdeka pada pukul 2-4 petang, 9 haribulan Julai 2011 (Sabtu) ini. BERSIH 2.0 bersedia untuk bekerjasama dengan mana-mana jua pihak bagi memastikan perhimpunan ini berjalan dengan aman dan lancar.

3. Pertemuan dengan YAB Perdana Menteri Dato’ Seri Najib Tun Razak

BERSIH 2.0 sedang berusaha untuk bertemu dengan YAB Perdana Menteri Dato Seri Najib Tun Razak dengan segera untuk membincangkan semua tuntutan di atas dan apa jua hal berkaitan BERSIH 2.0.


Yang benar,
Jawatankuasa Induk
Gabungan Pilihanraya Bersih dan Adil (BERSIH 2.0)

Just look at the audacity of the statement from an Illegal Organisation.....

Gilebabs siut....

Where is the DIALOG?

Should you as a group show that you are not a THREAT TO NATIONAL SECURITY FIRST?


Legalise yourself again? No....main tibai aje ke 

And who is this Rakyat that you so called  Represent?

The 150K Cyber Entities?


Or the Opposition Aligned Party Members who kena kerah naik bas dapat duit for Demonstration?

Remember my earlier post ...refer here
The entrepreneur will throw the first stone when he calculates that the risk that he will be apprehended for doing so has diminished to an acceptable level. The risk of arrest declines as a function of two variables--the size of the crowd relative to the police force available to control it, and the probability that others will follow if somebody leads.

Check out Tony Tompel tweet earlier...



Think for yourself......


What will PERKASA, PATRIOT and Geng2 Silat do?

Sit tight and watch the so called 300K "overwhelm" the police and openly defy the Police....


WHAT IF THEY SAY THAT THEY ARE HELPING THE POLICE TO UNDERTAKE CITIZEN ARREST?

It will only take one idiot to kerek lebih pakai T-Shirt Kuning beb...

Think about it folks.......

Leave you with a piece from the Book of Counted Sorrows by Dean Koontz (the title of the post is from him as well)


Living in the modern age,
death for virtue is the wage.
So it seems in darker hours.
Evil wins, kindness cowers.

Ruled by violence and vice
we all stand upon thin ice.
Are we brave or are we mice,
here upon such thin, thin ice?

Dare we linger, dare we skate?
Dare we laugh or celebrate,
knowing we may strain the ice?
Preserve the ice at any price?"


Or do we embrace chaos?

Oh bilamase pulak minah ni selit RCI?
Minds are like parachutes; they work best when open. -Lord Thomas Dewer