Guess what folks........
Allah Ciplak is in court again....
This time a well planned individual attack executed by a member of the Sidang Injil Borneo......
KUALA LUMPUR, July 5 – Sarawakian Christian Jill Ireland Lawrence Bill will get her chance next month to grill two local scholars who are dead-set against the use of the word “Allah” to also refer to God outside Islam.
Senior High Court assistant registrar Akhiruddin @ Boy Acho agreed to her application today and set hearing for Aug 9.
“My client wants to cross-examine the so-called Islamic experts who have filed affidavits to show ‘Allah’ is exclusive to Islam,” Jill’s lawyer Annou Xavier told The Malaysian Insider today.
Annou said the experts from the national Institute of Islamic Understanding (Ikim) and Universiti Malaysia’s Department of Aqidah and Islamic Thinking (Apium) were supporting the home ministry’s insistence to limit the use of the word “Allah” to within a Muslim context.
Jill, a member of the Sidang Injil Borneo (SIB) church, is suing the home ministry for confiscating her personal collection of CDs at the airport two years ago, simply because they bore the word “Allah”.
The 29-year-old clerk wants the CDs — titled: “Cara Hidup Dalam Kerajaan Allah”, “Cara Menggunakan Kunci Kerajaan Allah”, “Ibadah Yang Benar Dalam Kerajaan Allah” and “Hidup Benar Dalam Kerajaan Allah” — returned. More here
Well as usual this monkey goes on his search to understand a wee bit more about the characters and the issue he needs to write about........
google google google cam biasa la.....
First thing first lets find out what in the world is Sidang Injil Borneo......what they believe and how they operate........
SIB can be categorised a Pentecostal Church
The question of whether Pentecostalism is a “new” Asian religion or simply a Western transplant is complicated by the manner in which Pentecostalism reached the region. Although historians have identified Pentecostal-style movements in various countries in the late nineteenth century, it is generally agreed that the formal origins of Pentecostalism can be traced to the emotionally-charged revival meetings held in Azusa
Street in Los Angeles in 1906, with leadership that included black Americans as well as white, and women as well as men. In many respects Pentecostalism had much in common with the evangelistic Christianity from which it was derived – insisting on person conversion and salvation by faith, the obligation to evangelize and the acceptance of the Bible as the sole authority in matters of faith.
Pentecostalism, however, takes its inspiration from the biblical description of the day of Pentecost, when the disciples of Jesus were gathered in an upper room “and suddenly there came from heaven a noise like a violent, rushing wind, and it filled the whole house where they were sitting. And there appeared to them tongues as of fire distributing themselves, and they rested on each one of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit was giving them utterance (Acts 2: 2-4).” According to Mark‟s gospel, there would be specific signs of “signs” that the Holy Spirit had descended. “Devils will be cast out in the name of Jesus; people will speak with new tongues; they shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing it will not hurt them: they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.” (Mark 16:17-18). A sense of personal engagement has long been a feature of Pentecostal worship, and despite differences in leadership and church character, adherents have always paid special attention to the “gifts of the spirits,” signs of the presence of the Holy Spirit such as speaking with tongues and miraculous healing. As a number of authors have pointed out, these beliefs are particularly appealing in societies for whom supernatural involvement in everyday living is accepted as part of the human experience.
Hellalujah!!! I have seen the light!!!!! I have seen the Light of our Saviour!!!!!!!!! Jeng Jeng Jeng with some Ultraman and PowerRangers moves.........kencing baik punye....douws!
The Lundayeh and LunBawang tribes were ripe for conversion....
It is possible that the arrival of the Serawak government disrupted important ideological aspects of the Lun Bawang culture. The cessation of headhunting, with its ritual and ideological importance doubtless hestened and emphasized the cultural disorientation of some. The logos, or meaning attached to headhunting was negated and nothing filled its place, which would have been distressing to many. Christianity can be seen from this perspective, as an ideological replacement. It provided a logos, a sense of meaning that was lost when the Lun Bawang were forced to abandon headhunting. A moral basis for society and the individual was re-established. Deegan 1973:288
Conversion, Identity and Power: A. Sue Russell Page 149:150
Then camelah 3 Mat Sallehs in this green field (or should i call it Blue Ocean of Religious conversion......baru boleh masuk Con-Sultan speak sikit la kot)
Prior to World War Two missionizing among other tribal communities was limited, but in 1927 the Borneo Evangelical Mission (BEM) was inaugurated in Melbourne, and two years later three evangelists (Hudson SouthWell, Frank Davidson and Carrey Tolley) arrived in Sarawak. Aware that they would face competition in the cities, they concentrated on interior rural areas and settled near the fringes of the Murut (Lun Bawang) area. In 1937 the BEM extended its work to British North Borneo. Sarawak‟s border areas were also exposed to influences from American missionaries in Dutch Borneo and most of the Murut (Lun Bawang) groups became Christian through interaction with their kinfolk, indigenous converts on the other side of the international boundary.
In the 70's charismatic local conman emerged with assistance from Indonesia..........
From 1972 the “Pentecostal” aspects of the SIB became more evident, with an “awakening” among bible school students in Lawas generated simply by hearing English tape recordings of the British evangelist David Pawson talking about the Holy Spirit. In the same year the influential Indonesian minister Dr. Petrus Octavianus (from the island of Roti), who had been a close observers of the Timor revival, was also invited to preach in Lawas.
During his visit demons were exorcised and items associated with indigenous beliefs destroyed. In the Kelabit highlands October 1973 marks the beginning of the “Bario revival,” which erupted when a group of secondary school students in fervent prayer experienced the descent of the Holy Spirit. Soon the whole village was involved. In the past SIB members had periodically reported incidents such as encounters with the devil, but now prophecy, speaking in tongues, miracle healing and deliverance from demonic powers became common occurrences. From 1973 to 1975 there were prayer meetings every night, inspiring the dispatch of mission teams of schoolteachers, young people, church elders, district and village chiefs to other parts of Sarawak, many using the new airlines which now connected previously isolated areas.
Petrus Octavianus returned again to preach at several Borneo locations, and in a meeting at Kota Kinabalu in Sabah attracted three thousand tribal peoples. The first SIB church in Sabah was established in Kota Kinabalu in 1976, and in Brunei most Lun Bawang joined.In 1984-5 Ba Kelalan, a Lun Bawang area on Sarawak‟s border with Indonesia, became the centre for a renewed Pentecostal-style movement with reports of a series of spectacular signs and wonders. A principle figure was the charismatic Lun Bawang leader Agung Bangau (d. 1992), who had been “baptized in the spirit” in 1974 following the Bario revival. It was thought that God had given him special gifts, such as the ability to turn water into oil and rice grains into flour, and his following included many SIB members. His center of worship was the nearby Mount Murud, the tallest mountain in Sarawak, which has now become an annual pilgrimage site for Borneo Christians; from 1990 a church has been maintained near the summit.
As Matthew Amster has emphasized, the religious revival in the Kelabit Highlands in the 1970s and the charismatic movement surrounding Agung Bangau‟s teachings in the 1980s have become identified in local memories as marking a new chapter in the experience of “being Christian”. Because the SIB has drawn adherents from both sides of the Malaysia-Indonesia border, these movements have also helped shape a pan-ethnic Christian identity in this part of Borneo.
Supported by teaching institutions and ongoing church-planting, SIB membership, reckoned at around 1000 in 1962, rose to 75,000 in 1993, and some interior churches can now accommodate as many as 3000 worshippers. The SIB is also well established in urban centers, notably Lawas, Limbang, Miri, Kuching, Sandakan and Kota Kinabalu whence many interior people have migrated in search of work. Even more significant in terms of the SIB future is the formation of new branches in the peninsula. In 1993, a small group of East Malaysian Christians (largely Chinese) began meeting in Kuala Lumpur and SIB Semenanjung (Sidang Injil Borneo n the Peninsula) was inaugurated in November of that year. In Kuala Lumpur the SIB‟s English congregation grew from 15 people in 1994 to around 130 in 1998. In 2006, SIBKL rented out three floors in a downtown building and currently three worship services are held each Sunday to serve over 1500 people. The goal is to increase membership to 2000. According to the SIBKL website, there are now 31 congregations in West Malaysia (29 Bahasa Malaysia, 1 Chinese and 1 English), including missions among Christian Orang Asli in Jerantut.An intriguing development is the SIB expansion to Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia, Papua New Guinea and the southern Philippines, where local churches are tapping its experience in working with tribal peoples.More here Exploring the Roots of Pentecostalism
Mak oi......magical mandrem baik punye......
Anyway folks allow me to share with you their extreme methods.........
Underlying belief in Pentecostal believers is that there is an obligation to evangelise....
and you think they would respect rules by KDN?
Their extreme activities came under the radar of our very own National Intelligence in the Prime Minister's Department
July 3 2002 The Daily Express (a major newspaper in East Malaysia) carried a front-page story quoting Che Moin Umar as saying that SIB was practising extremist teachings. The National Intelligence Committee Director of the National Security Division in the Prime Minister s Department said that the Brunei authorities had expelled SIB and this had "caused a stir in our relationship with Brunei." He added that SIB had "received full support from a certain political party in 1980s." He made the comments when tabling his paper "Overview of National Security Challenges with Special Focus on Sabah", in Kota Kinabalu at a seminar on regional security.
Che Moin subsequently apologized according to this report
Why I have no clue...........he was the National Intel Committee Director..........he must have known something we macais on the street will never know.........and for him to apologize within a few days is suspect......
Let us now look at their "activities" in Brunei....
Bandar Seri Begawan - Activities of the Borneo Evangelical Mission Church or Gereja Sidang Injil Borneo (SIB) has come under close scrutiny following the arrest of three persons linked to alleged cult activities in Brunei this week.
According to informed sources, the SIB is actively involved in conversion activities. The spread of Christianity in Sabah and Sarawak in the recent time was largely due to the work of SIB, which was concentrating its energies largely in the rural areas, say the sources.
Interrogation of the three arrested, including the former Superintendent of Police, Haji Mohd Fredie Chong Abdullah, was continuing. The two others were businessmen Haji Malai Taufick and Yunus Murang. All the three are suspected to be closely linked to the SIB.
Sources say SIB is a dominant power in the acts of converting the population of the rural areas, as also those in cities. Foreign women are also allegedly used by SiB to give sweet talks to potential converts in Brunei Darussalam.
Now the church has been spreading to even West Malaysia, claiming a total membership of 250,000 attached to about 1,500 churches in that Country. Some 13 of these are in West Malaysia.
SIB, in its websites, gives the addresses of its churches at Petaling Jaya, Pusat Bandaraya, Cameron Highland, Klang, Johor Bahru, Kajang, Tanjung Malim, Kepong, Seremban, Melaka and Serdang.
Its website is still under formation stage, and it puts its address at P 0 Box 472. 88856 Likas, Kota Kinabalu, Sabah, Malaysia.
Concern is expressed over its alleged attempt to penetrate Brunei Darussalam, a nation with strong Islamic beliefs. There, however, are known cases of Malay Muslims having been converted to Christianity in the past.
Several churches are said to be in existence in this country, though their activities are not widely publicized. The main focal points for Christian coverts of Brunei Darussalam have been areas across the border, mainly a church in Tedungan near Kuala Lurah.
SIB, formed in 1959, had celebrated 40 years of its existence last year. Even before the formation of SIB church, Christian preachers had been spreading the religion in this region, targeting the rural folks since 1928.
To their advantage was the fact that many at the rural populace had no religion.
However, some of these preachers brought Muslims too into their fold.
It was after 30 years of existence of SIB that a local church was built by Christians. In such a short time, many ethnic races of Sabah and Sarawak were converted to Christianity. This included the ethnic races of Iban, Visaya, Lun Bawang, Kelabit, Kayan, Kadazandusun, Murut Tagal, Kenyah, Penan, Saban and Berawan.
The preachers then translated the New Testament into the ethnic spoken languages of these races.
In 1993, SIB churches created history by forming churches in West Malaysia.
At its early inception, the first church was in the form of a house. Now, seven years later, it managed to increase the number of SIB churches to 13, together boasting of a membership of 1,500.
SIB managed to penetrate the predominantly Muslim society of West Malaysia by undertaking community development works. It had also good money and good system of propagation. It helped erect factories, and got the workers into its fold through indoctrination. In a matter of a few years, several thousands of workers joined Christianity.
Also going into the fold of Christianity in West Malaysia were students from higher education institutions in Sabah and Sarawak, especially from areas like Klang Valley, Johore Bahru, penang, Malacca and Perak.
In due course, the church even translated Bible and other Christian leaflets into Bahasa Malaysia in order to attract Muslim Malays into Christianity.
Meanwhile, a man speaking on anonymity said that in Brunei Darussalam, the Christian preachers are mainly attractive young foreign women. “Because of their sweet talk, I nearly got converted”, he confided.
“Thanks to Al-Mighty Allah, I performed the Haj that year and the preachers never came back to me again,” he said. Brunei Darussalam has been somewhat liberal in allowing churches to be built for the purpose of prayers. But the reports about conversion activities are seen with a sense of concern by many locals.
Refer here
You wanna know how Brunei dealt with the threat.....
Details emerging from recent detentions and interrogations of Christians in Brunei point to a growing government concern that the growth of "cults" in this predominately-Muslim nation could lead to political and religious instability.
Seven Christians -- including two converts from Islam -- were arrested in December and January because of their suspected participation in a well-organized prayer program in Brunei, a small Southeast Asian Muslim sultanate on northern Borneo island that is surrounded on three sides by the country of Malaysia.
Yunus Murang, one of three Christians arrested in mid December, has been sentenced to two years in prison for illegally importing and possessing Indonesian Bibles. Malai Taufick Haji Malai Mashor and Mohammed Fredie Chong Abdullah, both converts from Islam, are believed to be still under detention, contrary to earlier reports that they had been released. It is not known what charges have been filed against the two former Muslims.
Four Christians arrested on January 30 were released approximately two weeks later.
In addition, an unspecified number of Christians have been called in for questioning by security police. The nature of these interrogations gives credence to reports that Brunei officials see "cult" growth as a threat to the nation's well-being. Authorities seem concerned about the possible formation of a "Christian cult" that intends to topple the government using subversive methods.
In an April 9 response faxed to British Parliamentarians who had inquired about the Brunei detainees, Brunei High Commissioner Dato Haji Yusof Hamid said the arrests were "necessary to protect religious harmony in the country."
"In Brunei Darussalam, the Constitution guarantees freedom of worship for all citizens but it does not mean undermining the majority," the commissioner wrote. "These people were involved in subversive activities directed towards misleading the majority Muslim community by deceptive means that the government believed could threaten the prevailing inter-religious harmony."
He added, "Hence, the government has taken these measures to ensure political stability, social and religious harmony in the country."
More here
So folks.....Jill Ireland is no macai.......she is a pawn in the bigger game......just look at her determination to grill Islamic scholars on this subject.....
The recently "awaken" Christian convert Lau Bee Lan's Ultra vires judgement in January paved way for more of such cases like this one....(wish i could comment more but this monkey does not want to jeopardize the KDN appeal....but if you read the Judgement, it is equivalent to the Judge saying that the Rulers have no right under the Constitution to empower KDN to undertake its function on this matter)
So folks we're back where we were in January......
and trust me this shit will go on and on and on and on..........it's so easy just go to Indonesia and bring in the banned materials, make sure one gets caught and scream Constitutional rape......
Will Malaysia go the way of Brunei in dealing with SIB threat?
Or will we under the current leadership be willing to make "tough" choices for the future of religious harmony in Malaysia?
At the moment this monkey thinks that the current Government is bankrupt on its Political Capital and is on a begging mode with the Chinese, which is being mislead by the Evengelist Jesus Talibans of DAP (do read this link folks!)..........what ever path they take it will be used against them in the upcoming PRU's.........
What the DAP is doing is mixing Race & Religious issues into a political tool to instigate dissent....how long will it be before something similar to this reach our shores (caution graphic description of Maluku Violence in the link provided)
As a refresher go here for a list of my old post on the subject