Thursday, December 11, 2008

The Idiot Logic Test on Malaysian Judicial Appointment Commission Bill

I’m no lawyer, so i will consider myself an idiot in the field of law...so here it goes....

How things are in Article 122b

122B.

(1) The Lord President of the Supreme Court, and chief justices of the High Courts and (subject to Article 122C) the other judges of the Supreme Court and of the High Court shall be appointed by the Yang di- Pertuan Agong, acting on the advice of the Prime Minister, after consulting the Conference of Rulers.

satD: The finality of judgment lies at the hands of Agong who acts on the advice of PM after conference of rulers agrees in principle on the candidates proposed by PM

(2) Before tendering his advice as to the appointment under Clause (1) of a judge other than the Lord President of the Supreme Court, the Prime Minister shall consult the Lord President.

satD: If PM needs a name to propose to the Agong for any other judges lower than Lord President(LP), he consults the boss of the judges(LP) and if he needs to appoint the big boss himself no need to consult as everyone is after the job so conflict of interest situation may arise, so i wonder who he consults in that situation

(3) Before tendering his advice as to the appointment under Clause (1) of the Chief Justice of a High Court, the Prime Minister shall consult the Chief Justice of each of the High Courts and, if the appointment is to the High Court in Borneo, the Chief Minister of each of the States of Sabah and Sarawak.

satD: Same logic goes with lower level courts, i.e PM needs to consult the mini-Bosses of each court and then he will run thru the names with their Big Boss (LP)

(4) Before tendering his advice as to the appointment under Clause (1) of a judge other than the Lord President or a Chief Justice, the Prime Minister shall consult, if the appointment is to the Supreme Court, the Chief Justice of each of the High Courts and, if the appointment is to one of the High Courts, the Chief Justice of that court.

satD: Same logic goes i.e PM needs to consult the mini-Bosses of each court and then he will run thru the names with their Big Boss (LP)

(5) This Article shall apply to the designation of a person to sit as judge of a High Court under Article 122A (2) as it applies to the appointment of a judge of the court other than the Chief Justice.

satD: Ahh this one not so critical to my idiot test

(6) Notwithstanding the dates of their respective appointments as judges of the Supreme Courts or of the High Courts, the Yang di- Pertuan Agong, acting on the advice of the Prime Minister given after consulting the Lord President, may determine the order of precedence of the judges among themselves.

satD: this one i think for the evaluation of seniority among the judges


Some Highlights of the Idiotic Bill -source 1, source 2

"PM must uphold the continued independence of the judiciary and have regards to defend the independence, support the judiciary and the need for public interest to be properly represented;"

satD: How in the world can the PM do that , how do we monitor his performance, if he fail can we take him to the “non-independent” court ? This one ranks as No 1 in my Idiot ranking

"A committee will be established to vet the appointment of judges of the superior courts. The JAC will consider the appointment of judges of the Federal Court, Court of Appeal and High Court and judicial commissioners. This includes the appointment of the Chief Justice of the Federal Court, the President of the Court of Appeal, and the Chief Judges of Malaya, Sabah and Sarawak.The commission will consist of the Chief Justice of the Federal Court as chairman, the President of the Court of Appeal, the Chief Judges of Malaya, Sabah and Sarawak and a Federal Court judge to be appointed by the prime minister. Four eminent persons, who are not members of the executive or public service, will be appointed by the prime minister after consulting with the Bar Council, the Sabah Law Association, the Advocates Association of Sarawak, the Attorney-General of the Federation and other relevant bodies."

satD: Total Number is 9 idiots with 4 of them the Big-Boss(LP) and his Kuncu Kuncu , 1 High court and 4 "eminent" PM proxy....can i be the eminent one ah?


"The JAC will meet at least once a month and the quorum will be seven, including the chairman. Each member present at the meetings is entitled to one vote by secret ballot.

In the event of a tie in the number of votes cast, the chairman will have a casting vote.

In the selection process, JAC will pick no fewer than three persons for each vacancy in the High Court and no fewer than two for other superior courts.

The chairman will also head the selection meeting unless it is selecting for vacancies in the High Court.

Members being considered for selection (to be a judge or commissioner) are disqualified from attending selection meetings.”

satD: This one really aiyooo..... the blardy idiot who drafted this really dont understand how to count to ten.....say the CJ dies of heart attack....all the other members now need to find a candidate..the other surviving senior judges i.e President of the Court of Appeal, the Chief Judges of Malaya, Sabah and Sarawak now cannot vote.....so how many left u f*&#king idiot!!!!! quorum pun dah tak cukup to make the whole meeting legal.....whats left is a bunch of dunggus appointed by the PM............what the f**k for....blardy waste of tax payers money 


“After making its selection, the JAC shall submit its findings to the prime minister stating the candidates and the reasons for their selection. The JAC will consider the appointment of judges of the Federal Court, Court of Appeal and High Court and judicial commissioners. This includes the appointment of the Chief Justice of the Federal Court, the President of the Court of Appeal, and the Chief Judges of Malaya, Sabah and Sarawak. Although the JAC makes the appointment of judges more transparent, the commission’s powers are limited. The prime minister is not bound by the recommendations of the JAC in the selection of judges.”

satD: I guess this one we are back to Article 122B , SO WHAT THE F**K FOR!!!!!


Folks I’m really sorry for the abusive language used in this post...but gua tak tahan kalau benda bingai gile........nak eksyen kata reform... my arse........... dah la tu Dato’ Sri Abdullah Badawi.....pi balik kepala batas la...this is exactly what happen when u believe in a flyby night operator who copy and paste other country model that have just started with so many potential operational problems.......

My final question to the folks in the parliment.....can u legislate something that is AGAINST our constitution or do u need to change 122B first?




10 comments:

  1. Salam bro SatD,

    IMHO, there's nothing wrong with our system. The only problem is the PM.

    P/S: Sorry for not asking your permission to put yours in my blogroll :)

    Salam Aidil Adha & Maaf Zahir Batin.

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  2. Salam Bro Kembara

    Selamat hari raya to u n family as well..

    Yup...Constitution is already OK nothing wrong with it....almost every country in world the PM/President wants to have the perogative to appoint people to the Judiciary.....imagine going forward if the government no longer have the right to appoint them...they will have no democratic responsibility at all

    Me happy to be on ur list...spread the word bro...

    Wass
    satD

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  3. Bro SatD,
    I’m not a lawyer too. But I believe that your final question is the most critical one. Legislate something that is against our Constitution. Let see how the Parliament react on this matter. I can’t wait for the Bill to be rejected.

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  4. FC just gives more power to PM in places he shudnt hv. wth.

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  5. Well, u have good reasoning wt rgds to this issue , some of them can be understood. I do feel , the whole thing is rather disappointing to people like us, the professionals and the 'super educated' . Often, our thoughts and reasoning are very fact/evidence-based, structured and no-nonsense. 'Politics' , especially in the 'local' context , is very tricky. unless u have your own ears on the ground, with personal 'touch' with the real people down there ( grassroots ) even the best theory , principles & application from the best business & law school in the world seem to be 'non-applicable' , to say the least . my take on this JAC thing , ever heard of 'political loopholes' ? hmm thats interesting , very simple . no way the proposal is perfect , its far from perfect , but to the politicians , it maybe...( note: interestingly enuf, even the politicians know it is not perfect ! ) in my opinion , this very idea of 'politicians ideology/actions/etc' VS 'researched based data/facts/recommendations' etc by 'other smart people' , can be applied to ALL areas that affect the society/nation such as economy, faith, education, etc etc. in other words, unless we have our own ears on the ground , we never know what is the most suitable 'local solution' for the specific entity. thx to the harvard & oxcam boy , ur super theories is not working so far. in my humble opinion , we should adopt 'best practice' principles - politics... a very interesting word. centralist malay

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  6. Centralist Malay

    if u wanna know the truth....this whole thing seems to be ochestrated by an idiot from Britol University (Oxbridge Reject Uni)....... the Head of the PM's Policy Unit....Memang bangang gile

    But what can we do...we got the King of Idiots on the throne...he is in no capacity to evaluate if the "Advisors" are really worth the $$$ that taxpayers are paying.

    This whole Tingat 4 ni memang nak kena pelempang, I've not heard anything good nor feasible coming out of there......the kinda shit i hear about them really makes me wanna puke n sapu it on their face

    Ape bole buat brader? 3 more months of nonsense i guess....

    Thank you for your comment

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  7. oh come on..lets give it a chance..this is a major step towards Montesquieuan ideal of separation of powers.

    You think Mahathir/Najib wouldve come close? Bah!

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  8. Anon 2:50PM

    Of course i support to have something like that.....

    I just don't like badly designed rules and regulation....it will affect the process...and corruption emerges.....

    Get a nic plse if u don't mind..

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  9. SatD,

    April Fools' came early to Malaysia. the JAC and MACC are Pak Lah's final practical jokes on Malayia's Parliament!

    The JAC and MACC Bills are just a big nothing and a massive waste of time. After all the clumsily worded political obfuscation in the Bills, the essence of the Bills are - "nothing has changed".

    When i understood that, I didn't even bother to analyse the issue further. Because it would then become a massive waste of MY time.

    I mean, there's nothing more to say, is there? The Bill was forced through Parliament, debate was near non-existant, salient amendments proposed by NGOs and Opposition MPs were ignored.

    There is just no political will to reform and seriously address the issues that are dragging our country down. All our politicians in power are interested in is their own self-advancement.

    Even before Pak Lah presented the two Bills, I had already predicted that nothing would change. Because powerful UMNO figures are not interested in reform. They are only interested in holding on to absolute power to continue their plundering of the nation!

    To me, that Pak Lah will give in to the UMNO supreme council's pressure to maintain the status quo was a foregone conclusion, given his inability to lead. But for him to actually go ahead and present his "reforms" in Parliament (after getting "permission" from the UMNO SC) was the biggest joke of all. EVERYONE could see that nothing had changed. And Pak Lah had the thick skin to crow about his reform "parting gift" to the nation!

    HA!!

    He should have just tucked his pillow tighter under his head and went out quietly in the night instead of making a bigger idiot of himself!

    I'm not anti-UMNO, but I'm afraid that UMNO in its current conception will NEVER be able to bring about the meaningful reform that this nation desperately needs. And subsequently, they will run this nation to the ground.

    God help us all...

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  10. hi Eyes Wide Open

    Thank u for your comment.

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Folks let me know what u think.......no need for mumbo-jumbo pseudo intellectual bullshit crap...a simple hello would be great....n thank u for droppin by........one more thing...ANON's please put a nick ya, susah want to address u ....n it also show that u r responsible for what u wanna say....

Minds are like parachutes; they work best when open. -Lord Thomas Dewer